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 Post subject: New study - Vegetarians live longer
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:58 am 
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http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/vege ... ive-longer

This is a follow-up study of one that was done years ago. It shows vegetarian men living 10 years longer than non-vegetarian men, and vegetarian women living 6 years longer than non-vegetarian women. And, vegetarians are, on average, 30 pounds lighter than non-vegetarians (I am 50 pounds lighter than I was as a non-vegetarian).

This article doesn't mention it, but the last study of this kind also considered other lifestyle factors to make sure that this was not a simple correlation that was really influenced by other factors (for instance, to ensure that the study wasn't just showing that non-vegetarians also tend to be non-smokers). I expect this study would have used the same statistical method.

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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
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to me that is not news. I have heard that and know that for years. Someone is behind the times.

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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:49 am 
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It's a follow-up study. The first study WAS done years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:10 am 
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REALLY old news. Just read Genesis. ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:18 am 
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Yup - before Genesis 6 - 6-900 years. After Genesis 6 - 120 years max.

Great point, Sis! : )

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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:03 pm 
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Sis stole the words right out of my mouth. I was talking to my oldest daughter about this the other day. She was asking me why I thought people lived so long in the first few chapters of the OT and all I could think of was dietary changes.


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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
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There are theories out there about the age thing but it's speculation, of course. The atmosphere was probably quite different before the flood. Food (fruits and veggies) would be at its best at the beginning of creation. They married late. ;-) Uhm.... what else have I heard?

In the Star Trek movie "Insurrection" they find a planet where the people are much older than they appear. They live very long lives like in Genesis' early chapters. It's very cool how they are apprentices until what WE would consider old age before they are allowed to be considered a craftsman at a trade. Reminds me of Tubal-Cain and Jubal and how long they may have gotten to tutor those that followed in their professions.


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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
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Question regarding vegetarians... What do you think is a % of vegetarians who focus on eating fruits, veggies, nuts... and not processed foods? Most of the vegetarians I know are all about chips, baked goods, candy, soda... It just seems odd that so many won't eat meat because of considered health benefits (not referring to those who don't because of cruelty issues...) but fill up on the junk foods. Seems counter productive.

Just something that goes through my mind when I see it happening. I could almost be vegetarian - but I really do like meat and feel good when I eat it. When I stop feeling good from it, I will eliminate it.


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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
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Pam in Colorado wrote:
I could almost be vegetarian - but I really do like meat and feel good when I eat it. When I stop feeling good from it, I will eliminate it.


Same here, Pam.

Also, about the age thing in Genesis.... Another thing to consider, is that the first few generations were "new" and "clean." Genes had not been weakened and mutated over time. We are many, many, many, many, mucho generations away from Adam, so our genes and systems have had plenty of time to weaken and mutate...another "plug" AGAINST evolution....If evolution is really true, then we should be getting better and stronger - which we're NOT.

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 Post subject: Re: New study - Vegetarians live longer
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Pam in Colorado wrote:
Question regarding vegetarians... What do you think is a % of vegetarians who focus on eating fruits, veggies, nuts... and not processed foods? Most of the vegetarians I know are all about chips, baked goods, candy, soda... It just seems odd that so many won't eat meat because of considered health benefits (not referring to those who don't because of cruelty issues...) but fill up on the junk foods. Seems counter productive.

Just something that goes through my mind when I see it happening. I could almost be vegetarian - but I really do like meat and feel good when I eat it. When I stop feeling good from it, I will eliminate it.


I know EXACTLY what you mean, Pam! This is *especially* prevalent among teen vegetarians. I refer to them as Hagen-Daaz-and-Cheese-Pizza-vegetarians! I used to be one, so I know.

It is my observation, tho, that this sort of so-called vegetarian doesn't stay that way for decades. They either return to eating meat (or, in some cases regularly DO eat meat that they like, only claim to be vegetarian when they don't *want* the kind of meat being offered. Like the young adult I know who calls herself vegetarian, but eats Pepperoni Pizza!), or else, they become interested enough in vegetarianism to really research it, and find out how to eat a better diet in the long term (like I did).

My Mom used to say that "greasy, salty potato chips" really made her feel good! I'm not sure we can always "trust our bodies" to give us the best nutritional advice. There are all sorts of aspects to feeling good, and sometimes it is hard to differentiate which ones are making us more healthy in the long run.

But, having said, that, It's not my mission in life to change omnivores - it's completely up to each person how they choose to eat.

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