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 Post subject: What do you think about this article about the Christian vot
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:46 pm 
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CALLED OUT TO VOTE FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS

Are you a voting Christian? Many Christians are confused about who to vote for. Some feel it would violate their conscience to vote for a Mormon. There are church going folks who never intend to vote, and there are other religious groups who believe it is wrong to even get involved in politics. I believe this all stems from a mistaken mindset, and this is tragic indeed. Meanwhile, this great nation of America goes into decline as Christians allow the worldly to govern. The Christian population is the largest voting bloc, and could easily influence our government for good if they could just forget their doctrinal differences long enough to vote. This is our God given responsibility, as well as a priviledge.

Consider the Scripture verse in Matthew 16:18. Jesus said, “On this Rock I will build my Church.” Jesus uses the Greek word Ekklesia, translated as Church in the King James Version. The Greek term Ekklesia means called out ones, or set apart. Greek speaking people of Jesus day understood the word Ekklesia meant, the calling out of free men to gather at the city gate and vote on a civil issue. Ekklesia means the called out ones, to legislate or govern. God's Ekklesia today are the born again Christians, the Church, and they are called to be His government in the earth. The Body of Christ could change many of the ills of society over night, such as abortion, redefinition of marriage, and the loss of religious freedoms, if they would exercise their God given authority to govern.

Many believe that God sovereignly installs our government leaders. I disagree. I don't think God even tells His people who to vote for, but certainly His Spirit causes us to know what to vote for, and that is RIGHTEOUSNESS. He has given His authority to His Ekklesia to enforce His will in this earth. “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, in earth as it is in Heaven.” Matthew 6:10. There is no political party that is totally righteous, however we can discern who is the most righteous candidate, “By their fruits you shall know them.” Matthew 7:20. Righteousness has to do with a standard of conduct of: justice, uprightness, honesty and morality. The Body of Christ needs to quit longing for Heaven, and wishing to leave this earth, and declare and establish God's will in the earth. We are here for a purpose. We are the called out free men for such a time as this.

Can a Christian vote for a Mormon? ABSOLUTELY YES! We are not voting for chief priest, but for commander in chief. Mormons do believe in a righteous and high standard of conduct. Remember also that Romney has a Christian running mate. Plus, in the fiscal shape our country is in we need a business man, and not another lawyer. Considering Obama's very own words and actions, He apparently is a Muslim, and that's the last religion we need in the White House, as it will eventually replace our democracy and establish Sharia law. A vote for Obama is a vote for abortion, both here and all over the world, paid for by American taxes. A vote for Obama is a vote for same sex marriage. A vote for Obama is a vote for European style socialism. A vote for Obama is a vote for two new ultra liberal supreme court judges, and the list is endless. To not vote at all is a vote for Obama. To write in a third party candidate is a vote for Obama. For those folks who do not get involved in politics, you are part of the problem, and you better thank God for those who do vote to provide you the freedom to live in the greatest nation in the world.

For the record, I am not a Republican, or a Democrat, or any other party member. I am also not a Mormon. I am an ultra conservative, born again, Jesus man. Christians, please join me in voting for RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 pm 
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I absolutely believe God is sovereign, even in the election process. The Bible says that He sets up kings and he deposes kings, so what if he uses a constituency to do it? God allowed Obama to become President and God will allow whoever wins tonight to win. His purposes are not as clear to me, because I'm not God, but I don't doubt His sovereignty. I do think people should vote their conscience. But I also think we can't legislate righteousness. The Church isn't a theocracy. Our very first area of influence should be our own lives, not what people and laws we vote for. I absolutely will vote according to my own beliefs and expect others to do likewise. I trust God will sort it out. But if our nation isn't righteous, it isn't because Christians aren't voting "the right way." It's because Christians aren't out on the streets and in people's homes being humble and Christlike. We need to trust God more than we trust our government and we need to win people with our lives more than we need to win votes for "our" side.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:02 pm 
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I disagree that a write in vote is a vote for Obama. That is faulty logic. Also, if God is leading and we feel strongly led to vote for someone other than those on the two popular party tickets, then we would not be following God's direction for us. I needed to vote for whomever I truly believe is the righteous one. Sometimes that is someone running on the Rep. ticket, or the democratic ticket, or the constitutional ticket, or the... I realize that it may be taking a vote away from someone else, but I will not vote a lesser of two evils (so to speak) just to ensure that one of them gets more votes than another. If we all voted for THE ONE that we truly believed in, then we might be surprised who wins the election. Most vote for the one that is a bit better than the other guy. I personally did not have an issue with Romney being Mormon. I have issue that behind the obvious differences between he and Obama (demo camp) there were way too many similarities of the direction they would be leading our country.

One positive of O winning again (and this is a big stretch) is that he can not run again. Wondering if they will try Hillary in 4 years. I so hope that we have some strong "other options" that can stand the cost and time of running against a Rep. or Dem.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
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I agree Pam. Wouldn't it be AMAZINGLY AWESOME for God's people to feel compelled to write in the same person's name!? :)


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:19 pm 
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Also, apparently if a third party candidate wins 5% of the popular vote, their party is eligible for Federal funding and essentially has to be treated like the Republicans and Democrats. They have to be allowed to participate in the public debates and all. If I'd know that, I would've voted for Johnson. Another thing I think is so, so important is to prayerfully participate in the primaries. The task now, for Christians who didn't vote for Obama (and I know some that did), is to be good sports and not engage in trash talk.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:02 pm 
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Did I hear Hilary is already talking 2016???


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:26 pm 
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I heard that rumor as well.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think about this article about the Christian
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:32 pm 
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I've been hearing that rumour since, oh, 1994?

In fact, this is the first week since then that I *hadn't* heard it - until y'all brought it up.

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