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 Post subject: Wow - I at least thought they'd wait a year or two
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:59 pm 
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/ ... -weddings/

Coeur d'Alene is threatening ministers with prosecution for refusing to perform a Gay so-called "Wedding"

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 Post subject: Re: Wow - I at least thought they'd wait a year or two
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Anna1111 wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/20/city-threatens-to-arrest-ministers-who-refuse-to-perform-same-sex-weddings/

Coeur d'Alene is threatening ministers with prosecution for refusing to perform a Gay so-called "Wedding"



Persecution is running rampant. I wonder if they can switch their "business" to a non-for-profit...ie..church?

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If profit/not for profit is the criterion, then as soon as they remove tax exempt status from Churches (and they will) there will be no freedom of religion anywhere in the country.

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Anna1111 wrote:
If profit/not for profit is the criterion, then as soon as they remove tax exempt status from Churches (and they will) there will be no freedom of religion anywhere in the country.



Very true. I guess I don't see why this particular group continues to target Christian churches. If I belonged to a particular group and was being refused service, I would just go somewhere else or start my own business.

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That's not their goal. They don't want to just "be married" or "be tolerated" they want to force the world to not only approve, but applaud their actions.

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Anna1111 wrote:
That's not their goal. They don't want to just "be married" or "be tolerated" they want to force the world to not only approve, but applaud their actions.



Very true.

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In the video it talks about ministers generally charging for wedding services. Is that true? Is that for members and/or outsiders?

Why would someone that is not a part of a church want a strange pastor to marry them?


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Sis wrote:
In the video it talks about ministers generally charging for wedding services. Is that true? Is that for members and/or outsiders?

Why would someone that is not a part of a church want a strange pastor to marry them?



People do it all the time. I do not think it is strange, per say. If a person does not have a particular religious affirmation, they really don't care who marries them as long as they get married.

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It is customary to pay a minister for performing a wedding for you.

Some charge an established fee, others are just voluntarily given honoraria by the marrying couple. (this is probably the most common situation here in the U.S.)

Some Churches have a policy that non-members pay x, members may give as they see fit. Others charge non-members more than members. Others charge the same to everyone (rare, since members are already giving stewardship throughout the year). Some Churches do not marry non-members at all.

As the Scriptures say, a worker deserves his wages (1Tim 5:18 http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/5-18.htm) It is *right* to pay a Clergyman for a wedding.

Some folks have a tie to a certain Church, but are not active members (Grandma goes to this Church, and I always went there when I was a kid, or I am a Baptist, but far from my home Church, and this is a *pretty* Baptist Church). Or, I am a Catholic, and I must marry in a Catholic Church, but my hometown is far away. There are lots of reasons to get married in a Church you don't know. I was married in DH's Childhood Church - we have strong ties there, but are not active members. For many Christians, a wedding MUST be done in a Church to be "Christian" others believe that it only must be done by a Pastor (in contrast to a Justice of the Peace)

In no case do Churches marry those who they think should not marry. For instance, the vast majority of Churches will not marry a Christian with a non-Christian.

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