Jenileigh wrote:
But my point is that what movie or book out there does have anything redeeming in it. It's like Christians hating gays. What is godly about that? Singling out sin is wrong and the bible also says that to say that you have no sin is sin itself. My point is more about loving people where they are and addressing our own selves and worrying less about others sins. I believe that if you are saved you will go to Heaven, like the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He didn't have to jump through hoops or be baptized to go to heaven. And being one that has seen the movie I could ask, what movies have you seen? I'm sure the sin is just as thick. What books do you read? No one in todays culture refrains from all forms of entertainment. I'm not trying to say that these things are right, I'm saying he without sin cast the first stone.
I think the differentiator is whether something is focused on sin or has it in passing. Using the logic you cite here, there is nothing wrong with Christians going to a strip club because it is no more sinful than anything else. In Romans, Paul says several things that are pertinent to this discussion:
12:1-2 "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, [which is] your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what [is] that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."
6:1-2 "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?"
(and before you say that baptism is not important, please go and read the rest of Romans 6 where Paul says "Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be [in the likeness] of [His] resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with [Him], that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. For he who has died has been freed from sin."
1 Co 11:31-32 says (speaking of Christians) "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world." (and lest anyone think this passage only applies to the Lord's Supper, why would he talk about the world being condemned for how they take that?)