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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:52 pm 
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Scott Bryce wrote:
Raquel has 2 diabetic children. She took them in for a checkup today, and their A1C levels (an indication of how well their diabetes has been managed over the last three months) were WAY too high. Because Raquel is in school full time, she isn't home much of the day, and isn't able to supervise her kids. The older children who stay at home will not take care of them. The son is in a program with the state for now, and will be going to a charter school when he is done. The daughter is homeschooled, but Raquel has had trouble getting her academics going this year. Raquel lives in a poor neighborhood, and the local elementary school is a very bad place to leave kids all day.

The doctor is giving Raquel 2 months to bring the kids' A1C levels down, or he will call DCFS to have these two children taken away. He is also insisting that the daughter be put in public school.



I just sent you a really long reply and it was lost in cyber space.
Anyway, first I do know what teh A1c tests are, and if there is anyway possible that she can change doctors that would be to her benefit, a specialist would be a very good idea
She will also need to contact an attorney quickly, either hslda or a local attorney or both depending on her circumstances.
Also she needs to remain calm at all times even if she is not feeling at all calm, she can't let them see her unnerved, because it will cause her a problem
Also she needs to make sure her kids know to keep everything clean, neat and orderly in the house, because social services will find fault if they are able to come in and see even the slightest excuse to say anything, I had one say something because of one paper under a sofa once (I didn't even know it was there)
If they are able to get in they will also want to inspect cabinets and the refrigerator for food, and they check for working smoke detectors if she doesnt have one, she can get a free one from the fire department in a lot of areas if she has a landlord they are required to have those in the house.

Now about the diabetes, there are a lot of different things besides what someone eats that can cause elevated sugar levels (if the doctor does not know this he is not a diabetic specialist or is hoping she doesnt know so he can use that as a means to control what she does with her kids based on his values and ideals).

Stress, illness, non-regular sleep hours not taking medicines at the right times, and so on.

It is not always what someone eats, my dh has woken up with sugar levels over five hundred when under a lot of stress and his levels have gone up after walking instead of down, and his levels have even gone down after eating, when I asked the doctor about it he went into a good bit of detail as to why that happened, I'm afraid of losing what I am writing so I'll let you just look that up.

Also I am very familiar with diabetes because I grew up around it a lot of people with type one diabetes then my dh has type two diabetes.
She also needs to find some way of testing their sugar a lot, and she can buy an ac1 test at walmart for about 8 dollars. She can test that herself before the doctor has opportunity to retest.

I'll be praying for God's grace, mercy and protection of her family.

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Briva wrote:
When a doctor is not your friend but your enemy. I am sorry to hear she has to add that as one of her worries now. I am going to assume these kids have Type 1 diabetes. Even so this information may be helpful. I am trying to get my own sister (type 2) to go Dr. McDougall's 2 week intensive program before she dies. She is 2 yrs younger than me yet looks and is in worse health than our 87yr old mom.

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/dec/diabetes.htm


A healthy diet is good for any kind of diabetes, even type one, type one can't be prevented or predicted though, while type two usually can be prevented.
Type one is inherited (I'm not sure if you knew that alreay is why I mentioned it)

Also I hope that your sister will listen to you and at least try the McDougall's diet, maybe it will be helpful to her. It's hard when someone is sick or not doing well.

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:41 pm 
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Pam in Colorado wrote:
Man, this is tough, as I would do just about anything to assure that my kids are not taken by DCFS. I'd find a trusted neighbor, friend, older homeschooling teen, family member that I could have come into my home (or my younger kids could go to their home) who could be there to assist with the homeschooling, the diabetic issues... so that I could show that proper care and supervision was happening. I know it is tough when you are on a tight budget to pay for such help, so perhaps a barter/trade could be arranged.

I have a friend whose son has type I diabetes and his numbers were way too high much of his younger years and into puberty. Diet helped but did not eliminate the high numbers, no matter what they did. When he attended public schools during that time, the nurse often called Mom because she didn't know what to do, even though the Mom had gone over all the information and left a sheet with step by step instructions. Being in school is not a cure for such things. Wish the doctor was realistic about it.

I'll be praying that a solution is found. I know that older siblings can watch younger ones, but it is never the ideal for anyone on a daily basis. Finding an alternative would be good all around in my opinion (having been one of the older kids in a family of 7 kids).



That's very important information and why she needs to switch doctors, it's a mistake for someone to think high sugar levels can be brought down to normal in a short period of time and two months is not long for a three month test, it is very likely the numbers are still going to be high for the next few times even if they start dropping imo it's going to be next to impossible to have the sugar levels in the normal range in just two months, when my dh was first diagnosed it took about six months for his levels to start coming close to the normal range, then when our son died his levels went right back up to even higher levels, and that took almost two years to get down (stress can cause levels to be high, as can illness even just a mild stomach bug or cold) stress can also cause lower levels than normal. )

If there is any way she can switch doctors she does need to do that and also find someone else who would be willing to barter with her on child care, especially if she is not able to pay someone to keep her kids during the hours she may be away.

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:48 pm 
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Diabetes is a very serious disease but it is not treated well by callling social services on anyone because the levels are high,
If there is anyway possible for her to switch doctors preferably to a specialist that is a very good idea.
Not every doctor is a good doctor or able to treat every disease as they should in my personal opinion of the matter.

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Praying for a solution. This IS an important issue to address to help this child feel better and control the diabetes, so it doesn't get any worse, not to mention the child services being hot on R's tail. Does she have any other friends she can call upon to assist with this situation?


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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:54 am 
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Just for the record, the doctor in question is one of the best diabetes specialists in the city. Does she have anyone else she can call upon? I am the most reliable friend she has.

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Briva wrote:
When a doctor is not your friend but your enemy. I am sorry to hear she has to add that as one of her worries now. I am going to assume these kids have Type 1 diabetes. Even so this information may be helpful. I am trying to get my own sister (type 2) to go Dr. McDougall's 2 week intensive program before she dies. She is 2 yrs younger than me yet looks and is in worse health than our 87yr old mom.

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/dec/diabetes.htm

Type 1 diabetes and McDougall do not go together. You have to limit carbs as the pancreas does not function. I went through this with hubby. It's all about the carbs

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 Post subject: Re: Raquel -- DCFS trouble
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Scott, you may be the most reliable person she can go to, but sounds like she is going to need to build a larger network, as you are not able to fulfill what she needs and not add additional issues. If something happened to you, and you were not able to be there for her at all, then who would she turn to? If there is no one else that is a good option, that is a bad place to be and needs to be rectified for her sake and for the kids. We all know that Social Services won't care that she doesn't, they will step in and decide they are the best alternative and that is worse than building a network that she and you are comfortable with. Better proactive then trying to get the kids back.


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